Giles Gourry EuDraco ([info]ggeudraco) wrote,
@ 2008-04-01 05:21:00
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LondonFur Organiser - 10th May meet

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As I figured I needed a fresh challenge when I graduate in a month's time, I thought I would put back what many friendly furries gave to me way back when I started out as a UK Furry in 2003. Plus I thought it was high time that I needed to pay something back to those who I had offended or just done bad on over the past four years. It wasn't fair what I did to a few couples, but I'm sure as time winds on, they realised that I was young and I did stupid mistakes - whether they forgive me is outside my control, and therefore I have to move on.

Recently, [info]rapidofrog sent out a plea to the community, asking for someone to take over and organise LondonFur meets at times when he was not available (especially since he is planning to move to Sussex in the near future) - [link]. I appealed my case (despite the rift we have between us) stating that that I have been a furry for 7 years, understand how to tend to veteran furries as well as new furs, plus my chemistry degree and working with SJA being good enough proof of filling in legal paperwork and organising future meets. Being qualified in first aid would make me a better candidate too.

I'm sure there must have been some reluctance to employ me as his second-in-command, but I received an email soon afterwards stating that under the circumstances, it wouldn't be such a bad idea, and agreed that I should do it. So there you go, I'm now officially responsible for the running of LondonFur meets when Rapido is unavailable. I can't thank him enough! :D

Apparently, he'll not be available for the 10th May meet and therefore I'm going to chair the meet. Since I have plenty of time, I need to get my dissertation sorted out first, then get cracking on organising this meet. I want to prove myself for this probationary period, and I want to make it a good meet for everyone. However, if anybody has any good ideas as to what we should do after the pub gathering (picnic at St James Park, group trip to Forbidden Planet, etc.), do send me an email or an IM and I'll seriously consider it.

Thanks and see you soon :)
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Oh my gosh! You'd think people didn't have a sense of humour...I was going to apologise and state it for what it was at 11.59pm, but it appears I have been banned from LondonFur meets as a result of this prank. To compound the confusion, the article has been given attention that would otherwise have not been possible - [link] - but again, at the cost of being banned.

Regardless, I do apologise those I have deceived. I actually feel that the penalty I'm paying is quite harsh, but I have no choice but to accept it. There was some minor truth to the article though - I was going to attend the 10th May furmeet and organise a social after the pub gathering, but definitely not as LF head organiser.

Again, I apologise. Have a nice April Fool's Day :)

[oh, congratulations to [info]graafen [info]myst [info]benji for spotting the Easter Egg first - Look at the italicised letters!]

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noodleh.
(Anonymous)
2008-04-01 05:16 am UTC (link)
april fools day

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Re: noodleh.
[info]ggeudraco
2008-04-01 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Thank you

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Unfortunately...
(Anonymous)
2008-04-01 12:29 pm UTC (link)
Please read this excerpt from a public announcement i have made about my retirement in the LF meets which is about you.

"Lastly I must mention that there has been a certain person in the londonfur community who has taken it upon themselves to lie to you all saying that he has been appointed the londonfur organizer by me. This person’s entry can be found here http://ggeudraco.livejournal.com/119358.html I must stress that this person has not contacted me nor are they are truths behind this whatsoever, and has no hand in the londonfur organisation – this person has been a constant source of unrest within the londonfurs due to previous incidents, and unfortunately this person has tried to trick you all into a lie, therefore myself and spargue have had no option to but to ask him not to come to a londonfur meet again until such time as he can prove he will no longer upset and deceive members of our community"

Please do not attend a london furmeet for now until you can satisfy the above (and contact spargue before thinking about coming). Spargue (the new LF organiser) has agreed to this and will enforce the above.

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Re: Unfortunately...
[info]clawz_skunk
2008-04-01 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I find it amazing how people can often take things too far because of personal biases. Also I find it amazing that messages like the above have to be posted anonymously.

Sometimes I am quite glad that I´m out of all of the bitchiness and drama that is the Londonfur scene...

To be honest "nobody" should have the right to ban people from a social gathering unless it´s a majority vote. Even then, people should only vote on what they know and not on "heresay" or "what I´ve been told".

Organisation is often good, but turning something like the "londonfurs" into an organisation is something that will never sit right to me. People take on the roll to organise something because they want to add something to the community.. why do they need the mantle of "Chief Organiser" or feel that this gives them the right to ban people at their own whim?

overall I´m slightly disgusted with the way some of the furry community is moving in the UK.

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Re: Unfortunately...
[info]andreuswolf
2008-04-01 06:33 pm UTC (link)
^ This.

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Re: Unfortunately...
(Anonymous)
2008-04-01 06:56 pm UTC (link)
?

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[info]graafen
2008-04-01 01:59 pm UTC (link)
I just want to head's up here to say that this post is an obvious (to me, but well crafted) April Fool's Day gag. Look for the letters in italics.

Edited at 2008-04-01 02:00 pm UTC

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[info]ggeudraco
2008-04-01 05:12 pm UTC (link)
Well done you :)

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(Anonymous)
2008-04-01 05:25 pm UTC (link)
Somewhat amused that he has now retracted his statement, (though in comments not as the apology it deserves) claiming it to be his own april fools joke.

What utter bullshit.

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[info]spargue
2008-04-01 06:52 pm UTC (link)
As organizer of the London furs I will say that you may attend the meet on the 10th May if you so wish.
However it has been noted that you have been a disruption at previous meets and was partially a disruption for the first boat party at the last meet you attended. My personal issues with you aside this is a community of accepting people on the fringe of society, and we do welcome you, but know that you do tread on thin ice.

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[info]clawz_skunk
2008-04-01 08:32 pm UTC (link)
Again, I´ll point to my own previous response.. there´s a BIG difference between labelling yourself organiser of the LondonFurs and labelling yourself the organiser of the londonfur meets.

I would recommend reading the rest of my post to see my stand on the whole situation.

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[info]spargue
2008-04-01 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Having not read your post before I commented, my post still stands. Yes there is a subtle difference int he 2 wordings but you are reading too much into it. As I organize the meets and they are in my name they are down as a private party. Therefor I am host to this party and everyone else is my guest. As Host I am obligated to do what is best for the other guests at my 'private' party. Yes it is open to all furs who happen to be in London on that day. However being host I can and will refuse entry to those who I feel will detract from the positive atmosphere of the party. There are numerous people I feel are not good at the party. and I wouldn't invite them to social gatherings that I would host outside of the London furs. However as I have said, as a community who accept outcasts it wouldn't be in good spirit to ban people because of my personal feelings.

Not being an attendee of the London furs I wonder why you feel the need to interfere in the internal affairs of the community?

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[info]clawz_skunk
2008-04-01 11:01 pm UTC (link)
Although these are the last things I shall say on the matter, it´s important to be concise if you´re going to claim to represent a comunity of people or event. Especially in response to an inflamitory statement. At this point I shall state that there is a lot more than a subtle difference between the two wordings i mentioned... unless you mean gramatically which would find very strange indeed to mention.

I´ve already noted that I don´t like the organisational direction that most of the UKfur events are moving and that´s quite my prerogative to mention. However, my point is that when the segregation of someone within an open community occurs it should be stated that they're not banned from the londonfurs (because **nobody** runs the londonfurs). But simply that they would be banned from the meet that you are responsible for. This notwithstanding, it was not necessary to make this a public issue, like has happened, unless the person in question was asked not to come privately and then still attempted to come. All this has done is air someones dirty linen in public when it was not necessary and is a very poor show.

As a side note! my need to interfere in the LondonFurs is because, contrary to your knowledge I have been a LondonFur for over 8 years, and originally helped to organise meet events with Marcony whilst I lived in London (which was for several years). The fact that I have simply moved from the area does not negate my status as a LondonFur, especially as I do come back every now and again. If you´re telling me that location dictates whether you can be a londonfur, then by rights, as someone who lives in Surrey, how does this make you a LondonFur? But as I´m sure you´ve gathered, the location is of little importance to me.

Finally, it´s a very poor show to question someones right to interfere in a community without checking whether the person is actually a member of the community in the first place. Often I wish Vexen was still around and as active in the community as he used to be. I do long for the good old days...

To sum up: This whole event on LJ should never have happened. There is a **huge** difference between writing "As organiser of the Londonfurs" and "As organiser of the londonfur meets". And it´s very poor form for someone to question a long standing member of the communities right to "interfere" in a community they helped to build, through good times and bad.

P.s. please forgive my bad grammar as I currently have a cervical strain and am quite dosed up on muscle relaxants and painkillers.

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[info]spargue
2008-04-01 11:43 pm UTC (link)
To clarify. posting with the phrase 'organizer of the London furs' was a grammatical over site. I was not intending to imply I was some sort of lord general of the London furs.
From my point of view it looked like you were interfering and shit stirring the drama. Hence why I questioned you authority. Yes I agree this should not have happened, but unfortunately it has. I am new to this role and mistakes are bound to be made.
points I would like to make are, that Rapedo's post on me banning GGeudraco was not with my consent. I made no such indication I would ban him. He will be welcome to attend the meet on the 10th. If it is felt that he is detrimental to the meets or breaches the code of conduct I will politely ask him to leave. This is not a special case, but applies to everyone in attendance.
Organization of the meets needs to be managed by someone due to the size of the meets. We are too big and need to book a venue all to our selfs do to problems it would cause if we just crashed a pub randomly.

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